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GPX Files from Phone to Garmin GPS

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Alison Harmon · · San Diego · Joined Oct 2014 · Points: 0

I see I can't do this from the phone app. Guess I have to get on the Website Full Site, then transfer it somehow?

Tom Robson · · Boulder, CO · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 5,922

Hey Alison,

Correct. The GPX export functionality only exists on the website.

I'm interested to hear your use case and how we might be able to better this feature in the future.

Best,

Tom

Alison Harmon · · San Diego · Joined Oct 2014 · Points: 0

That's too bad. Often I travel just with my Android Phone. I'd really like to be able to get the GPX files on my Garmin!

Zachary Bishop · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 0

This would be useful for those of us who already have a Garmin / Wahoo mounted to our bars and wish to get the routes to them.  I'd rather keep my phone in my pack away from the elements if I have a dedicated cyclometer with maps.  There are 3rd party garmin apps to move files from a phone to the cyclometer (Wahoo can do this as well).  I've tried loading the desktop version on my Android but it can be nearly impossible to navigate around to where the files are downloaded.  It would be nice to download gpx from the mobile app when I decide where I'm going to ride without having to go home and log into a PC first.  

Zachary Bishop · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 0
Tom Robson wrote:

Correct. The GPX export functionality only exists on the website.

I'm interested to hear your use case and how we might be able to better this feature in the future.

Hi Tom, 

I was curious if any consideration is given to a download option for the Mobile apps?  With the recent addition of map capable bike computers, this would be really useful, as we could use Garmin Connect IQ apps to send the files from our phones to our bike computers, which can be kept out in the dirt / rain / snow.  (Same for Wahoo and the upcoming Hammerhead computers).  They can be downloaded ahead of time from a PC, but when I'm going some place new, or far away, I generally don't have a PC with me to download maps.  Loading the Desktop version on a mobile phone can be really difficult to navigate.

Thanks

Tom Robson · · Boulder, CO · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 5,922

Hey Zachary,

Thanks for the message and great ideas. I'd love to make exporting rides to GPS devices easier/more intuitive. At present, exporting GPX tracks from the mobile app is not on our timeline, but I'll definitely bring the idea up with our product team.

I'm sure you understand, but we're a small team. This means we have to be very discerning about our product decisions. That's not to say your request won't happen in the future, just not in the near future.

Cheers,

Tom

Zachary Bishop · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 0

Hi Tom - I totally understand.  

Now that I'm trying my new Garmin Edge, I don't think it loads multiple GPX at the same time like the old eTrex units, so I may need to use a laptop regardless.  

Good to see it brought up tho, thanks!

Zachary Bishop · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 0

I know this has been a product suggestion for some time but I just wanted to check in and see if there are any plans at this time for a way to transfer maps to a Garmin device?  
Your main competitor (I won't mention the name) has just come out with a ConnectIQ app that loads up on Garmin devices and lets you directly pull maps to it through your phone connection.  
As this essentially cuts out all of the work I have to do (opening each map on a desktop PC, saving  files, transferring to the Garmin....

Tom Robson · · Boulder, CO · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 5,922

Hey Zach,

We're working directly with Garmin on an app that should be announced soon. Stay tuned!

-Tom

Zachary Bishop · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 0

Thats good news! I can't wait to see what's in store.  For what it's worth I tried other connectiq app from the other guys and uninstalled it the next day...I could only seem to pull 'routes' rather than a group of trails, which didn't do much good for a complex group of trails.  It also just flooded the list with everybody's routes which was random without preview..  Hopefully the app will be to pull the data and not replace the entire Garmin apps during the ride, that way it still retains all the native functions for data screens, power meters, etc.

Richard Kolkovich · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 0

I would LOVE to see this functionality.

If the trail data is downloaded, doesn't the device have the GPX already?

I have to either use the website to download the GPX to my phone (to load to my Wahoo ELEMNT Bolt via the app) or download it on my laptop and transfer it. Either one requires a 'Net connection (limitation if making a game-time decision where there is no cell service), and the MTB Project website is HORRENDOUS on mobile, so the laptop transfer is the least anger-inducing option. :)

djn Nechrony · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2006 · Points: 15

Check out dynamicWatch. You can download gpx routes from the full mtb project website on your phone (not mobile app) to your Bluetooth enabled garmin gps. I like being able to download featured rides from mtb project as opposed to several trails from TF. Hopefully mtb project will get a garmin iq app soon! 

Tom Robson · · Boulder, CO · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 5,922
djn Nechrony wrote: Check out dynamicWatch. You can download gpx routes from the full mtb project website on your phone (not mobile app) to your Bluetooth enabled garmin gps. I like being able to download featured rides from mtb project as opposed to several trails from TF. Hopefully mtb project will get a garmin iq app soon! 

Stay tuned!

Zachary Bishop · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 0

Has there been any further planning on working with Garmin Edge computers or is that no longer in the works? 

Zachary Bishop · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 0

It's been over a year since word of a possible Garmin app.  Is it safe to assume this was cancelled?  If so, was this just not something that was seen as worth-while, or is there something going on where Garmin decided to be exclusive to Trailforks while Wahoo works with MTBProject?  I noticed they've had a Garmin Trailforks app for some time as well as Garmin base-maps containing all trails.  I still prefer the MTBProject app interface to the TF app, but when I have a mapping bike computer, I prefer not to pull out my phone on the trail. Just curious if anything was still in the works?

Gary Madgett · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2015 · Points: 0

Any further updates???

Zachary Bishop · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 0

So last we heard back on this was a year and a half ago, May 4, 2018 - stating that we should see an app soon.  
Has development on this stopped since REI has taken ownership of MTBProject, or is there another reason for the silence?
Garmin now has Trailforks maps built into their newest cyclometers; is this part of the reason for MTBProject not working with them on an app, such as a deal exclusive to a non-Garmin company (Wahoo)?  If it's not going to happen, it would be nice to know, rather than silence.  Quite honestly I'd prefer using MTBProject over other services, but I don't really have that option on Garmin.  

If a Garmin app isn't happening, and no ConnectIQ app to send saved routes, the mobile (Android / iOS) app should at the very least give us an option to download the GPX files without going to a desktop PC to do it.  People have expressed interest and it shouldn't be terribly difficult to put a download option in the Mobile app.
Essentially every other service I've seen has some way to get the data onto a Garmin head unit.  Technically MTBProject does, but it requires a desktop browser, which almost nobody is going to have access to if exploring new areas without pre-planning.  (Unless the owners prefer the data only be viewed under the MTPProject / REI overlay?)

Zander Göpfert · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 2,553

Hey Gary and Zachary,

As you've guessed, integration with Garmin and Wahoo hasn't been a top priority. There was a brief moment in time over a year ago when we were hopeful, but nothing was finalized.

This one hits close to home for me, as I'd love to be able to load up a ride and not have to take my phone out, gloves off, etc. I'm preaching to the choir here but the bigger opportunity I see is keeping more of an open line of communication with you all about what we're working on and the honest likelihood of things like this happening. Our current overall goal is to improve the user experience with the app before we add additional features and functionality.

We're always listening to, recording, and using user feedback to inform product changes. I'm sure we don't say it enough, but we really appreciate it when folks like yourselves reach out with any thoughts, rants, or 2 cents.

Adding gpx download functionality to the app or mobile web is a good question that I can follow up about.

(To answer your specific question, MTB Project had been a part of REI for a few years before the Bike Computer integration discussion. I don't know the specifics behind why things fell through.)

Zander Göpfert · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 2,553

Just in case, some helpful feedback about syncing Featured Rides here: mtbproject.com/forum/topic/…

Zachary Bishop · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 0

Thanks for the information Zander.   I have referred several people to the MTBProject app and they find it useful.  I tend to ride more often in freezing weather in state forests (and avoid pulling the phone out), so for now I'll continue setting the Garmin up from home using the desktop site.  

djn Nechrony · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2006 · Points: 15
Zachary Bishop wrote: Thanks for the information Zander.   I have referred several people to the MTBProject app and they find it useful.  I tend to ride more often in freezing weather in state forests (and avoid pulling the phone out), so for now I'll continue setting the Garmin up from home using the desktop site.  

I still use https://dynamic.watch/ to load  mtbproject rides onto my edge 1000 (through my phone, no computer needed) Especially when I’m away from the house on a trip. I also much prefer using my garmin to having to get my phone out to use the mtbproject app. Hopefully mtbproject will get a garmin iq app soon! 

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